Wednesday, August 13, 2003
The New Urbanism vs. Agrarianism
Derek and I had the dialogue below via email:
DM: I may buy "Sidewalks" today along with some other stuff. Have you gotten it? I really want to explore this more deeply and side by side with agrarianism. What does agrarianism really say about cities and what is missing (if anything) from New Urbanism?
GB: It does not seem to me that agrarianism and traditional towns would be mutually exclusive. Local farmers selling their goods to the local community, etc.
DM: I wouldn't think that agrarianism and traditional towns (small rural types) are mutually exclusive. I would tend to think they'd be supportive of each other. I suppose my up front suspicion of New Urbanism is that it still seems detached from the land. It would seem to foster a sense of community by not necessarily a full blown localism. Of course, I really don't know anything about New Urbanism.
GB: I have actually had the same question about The New Urbanism. There seems to be a sense within it of place, community and ecology (green space, etc.) but not necessarily agrarianism.
DM: I think you are right. There does seem to be a sense of place or community. There appears to be the makings for the chance meetings that vol. 62 mentions. The question for me is what is really shared? What's the center? It is not a shared faith. My second question centers around the integration of work. NU does incorporate retail space and such but it still seems very separate. I don't think agrarianism means farming alone but more broadly means localism.
Derek and I had the dialogue below via email:
DM: I may buy "Sidewalks" today along with some other stuff. Have you gotten it? I really want to explore this more deeply and side by side with agrarianism. What does agrarianism really say about cities and what is missing (if anything) from New Urbanism?
GB: It does not seem to me that agrarianism and traditional towns would be mutually exclusive. Local farmers selling their goods to the local community, etc.
DM: I wouldn't think that agrarianism and traditional towns (small rural types) are mutually exclusive. I would tend to think they'd be supportive of each other. I suppose my up front suspicion of New Urbanism is that it still seems detached from the land. It would seem to foster a sense of community by not necessarily a full blown localism. Of course, I really don't know anything about New Urbanism.
GB: I have actually had the same question about The New Urbanism. There seems to be a sense within it of place, community and ecology (green space, etc.) but not necessarily agrarianism.
DM: I think you are right. There does seem to be a sense of place or community. There appears to be the makings for the chance meetings that vol. 62 mentions. The question for me is what is really shared? What's the center? It is not a shared faith. My second question centers around the integration of work. NU does incorporate retail space and such but it still seems very separate. I don't think agrarianism means farming alone but more broadly means localism.
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